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Some common email questions I've received!
1.
Q. "I was minding my own business and happily keeping three hens
quietly and cleanly in my backyard. Someone must have called the
City on me, because now they have sent me a notice that says chickens are
illegal to keep in my neighborhood and that I might have to get rid of
them. What should I do?"
A. If you want to fight City Hall,
I can give you my two cents: 1. Definitely show up in person
to council meetings (they happen usually once a week) with a slide show
or large pictures of your compliant coop set-up. 2. Take the
maximum amount of time allowed to speak. 3. Bring as many other
chicken owners as you can find with you. Numbers of people at council
meetings speaking louder than words. 4. Go more than
just once. Go to every meeting so they don't forget you. 5.
Emphasize that you've already had chickens for a number of years but a
neighbor with a grudge ended the peace. 6. Be organized.
Prepare for the long haul. Doing it half-*ssed is often worse than
not fighting at all. 7. Again, numbers of people. If
a small crowd shows up at city hall and everyone gets a chance to speak,
then they can be ignored less. 8. Ask city council members
(via email perhaps) ahead of time the procedure for challenging laws
of any kind. Don't even mention chickens until you know the procedure
for challenging laws in general. Laws are hard to change but other
towns have done it, and they were organized, persistent, and had more than
one person. 9. See the first article on this
page for a newspaper article on one woman's fight to keep her chickens.
10. Glean lots of info from the following three websites from these
different cities. They have kept notes on how they changed the chicken
laws in their towns: http://www.a2citychickens.com/
.
. . . . http://madcitychickens.com/
. . . . . http://www.duluthcitychickens.org/
. . . . . . http://tinyurl.com/ygurdbq
2.
Q. "I hope you can help with a problem I am having with my neighbors.
I live in the suburbs. My neighbor next door has had chickens for
awhile. I see their chickens sometimes in my driveway. Now
the neighbors on the other side of me got the idea to raise chickens also.
They now have 5 chickens and their chickens are always in my front yard
and driveway. I just want the chickens to stay in their own yard."
A. I myself
would hate this, and I’m a chicken fan. In populated areas, there are animal
laws, and why should some people not have to follow them? In the
three different houses I’ve lived in over the years, there have been so
many stray dogs and cats in my yard it’s ridiculous. For a first
step, here’s what I would do. It’s my style; it might not appeal
to you: Write a note and tape it on their front door.
Be polite and tell them what’s bothering you and clearly state what you
would like; that they keep their pets on their property. Include
your phone number. In the note I would quote the chicken laws from
the City Code in your town, which undoubtedly forbids chickens or any pets
(yes, the law always includes cats, too!) to “roam at large.” Again, even
as a chicken fan, I do not approve of letting one's chickens roam at large.
Unfortunately, this type of animal-owner often doesn’t respond to the first
note. Gear yourself up to call animal control eventually. If
you feel these chicken-owning neighbors will ignore your note or be angry
with you, just call Animal Control anonymously.
3. Q. "Where
do I buy baby chicks and supplies? Many large on-line hatcheries
have a minimum order of 25 chicks. I just want three or four."
A. Look in your 'Yellow Pages' under
"feed stores." The majority of feed stores bring in a variety of
baby, or "day-old" chicks during the spring months. Feed stores will
also have all your poultry feed and supplies. Some feed stores start
bringing in baby chicks as early as late February and carry them through
June. A few feed stores will carry chicks nearly year 'round.
If you can't find the breeds you want, when you want them, you might have
to start calling feed stores in the next towns over. You can buy
any number of chicks you need from a feed store; no mimimum number required.
Also, some breeds are more popular than others and so some feed stores
let you call in and "reserve" chicks of a certain breed.
4. Q. "I am
definitely interested in getting chickens but what would I do with the
ones I don't want any more? Like, what do I do with the ones that
are too old to lay eggs, or grow up to be roosters, etc.? I don't
think I want to get into the butchering business. How would I find
a farmer that might take extras off my hands?"
A. In my experience, I have found
CraigsList.com and FreeCycle.org the best ways to get rid of extra hens
or roosters, especially if you offer them for free. Oftentimes those
sites are good places to find chickens, too. There is no guarantee
a farmer might take your surplus rooster home and make dinner of him, but
that's a practical use for a chicken, too.
5. Q. "I think
we want to get about 6 hens. What is the minimum size coop and pen
area needed for 6 chickens?"
A. In my personal experience, I
would say the footprint of the pen (any parts where they can touch ground)
needs to be around 8'x 8', in any shape/configuration, for six hens.
That is about 64 square feet for six full sized laying hens. I come
to this number more from experience than from any math equation or advice
from commercial egg production companies. You can get away with giving
each adult laying hen less than ten square feet per bird, but then you
have other issues to contend with, such as more mud and standing water
to figure out how to manage, and perhaps chicken behavior that is caused
by being over-crowded. . . . . . . But are you trying to get enough eggs
for your family? We only have three hens and that more than feeds
our family of four, even with me doing regular baking, and I still have
enough eggs left over to give to all the neighbors throughout the summer.
So my current three hens (I've had up to 30 chickens at once before) live
in a chicken tractor
that has an 8'x4' footprint, with a sleeping/egg-laying area built above
the run area.
6.
Q. "I had a neighbor write me an anonymous letter telling me that
my three hens are too noisy, are bothering them when they try to sleep,
and they are going to call animal control. What should I do?"
A. Hens can
be noisy sporadically, and if the chickens are anywhere near a sensitve
sleeping person, they might indeed be bothering someone. In my own
personal opinion, I think barking dogs can be far more bothersome than
cackling hens, which only cackle for short bursts lasting usually under
a minute, the max a few times per day, and none at all after sun set.
Whereas
dogs can go on barking jags that last a half an hour or more, and often
after dark. . . . . . .This neighbor of yours has probably written letters
to other neighbors about their dogs or radios, etc., since it sounds like
they are sensitive to noises and are prone to write letters. You’re
probably not being singled out. But sometimes letters are the easiest
way to address a concern. . . . . . . You are doing the right thing in
researching
and knowing the laws on chicken-keeping in your neighborhood. The
bothered neighbor may indeed call animal control to find that you are keeping
chickens completely legally. At my old house, we had to actually
have a permit to keep chickens, which I of course had. So once when
a neighbor said something about my chickens, I was able to say, "I have
a permit; would you like to see it?" (I had mentioned to them
about their dog pooping in my yard a lot and instead of apologizing, they
said they were going to call the cops on my chickens.) . . . . . . What
I personally would do would be to put my two or three hens in a mobile
chicken
tractor and move them to the other side of the house. This way,
you will probably be moving them away from the sensitve neighbor.
My solution is to compromise as best as possible, and for me this is keeping
the chickens in a coop that can be moved to other parts of the yard if
needed due to a complaint. . . . . Another technique for keeping hens from
cackling too early in the morning is to make sure that when your hens go
into whatever "house" or enclosure they go into at night, that there is
a *door* you can shut behind them after dark some time at your convenience.
Then you can let them out of their house into their run whenever you want
in the morning, and this really cuts down on early morning cackling. Be
sure to not leave them locked in there too long. Or else make sure there
is extra water inside the house part. . . . . . Another habit I have is
when I first move into a new house, I go around and meet all my neighbors.
I bring them half a dozen fresh chicken eggs with my card on it, which
has my phone number and email address, and I ask the neighbors if my chickens
can be heard and if they are ever bothersome to please feel free to let
me know. Yes, I really do this! Last year, even with
just three hens, I was able to give all of my six immediate neighbors a
half a dozen eggs every once in awhile throughout the summer.
7.
Q. "We just got chickens. They are 2 and 1/2 months old.
We bought a book that said that they need to have a light in the coop.
The lights said they should be on a timer from 4:30 to 10:00 pm and then
from midnight until sunrise. I wanted to know if this is the right
thing to be doing for them. We live in a suburb of San Francisco."
A. They are
2.5 *months* old? That's around 11 weeks old, and that's old enough
to be outside in a wind/rain/draft proof coop, outside, without any heat
lamps at all. Having a light on a timer like that I've never
heard of. In fact, when you get day-old chicks, their heat light
is supposed to be on 24 hours a day, to provide heat.
8.
Q. "My hens are losing their feathers left and right. Could
they have some kind of parasite?"
A. They are
probably molting. All birds molt. They lose their feathers
once a year (more or less in different bird species) and new feathers grow
in. Most of the time new feathers are growing in at the same time
as they lose the old ones, so the chicken never gets entirely denuded,
yet some chickens can get quite bald in patches. If you look closer,
you will see new pinfeathers coming in, like a porcupine.
9.
Q. "I have some young chickens that are out of the brooder
and into their outside coop. I let them roam in my backyard during
the day. When nighttime comes, they won't come home to roost!
How do I train them?"
A. I don't
start letting my young chickens out of their pen to roam the yard until
they are at least 6 months old. Until that time, mine must stay in
their chicken tractor.
This gives them the time to really learn that the coop is "home."
Why do I give them so long? Because they are dumb and it takes them
that long to learn! :) After even that much growing up,
I am fully prepared to still have the chickens not know where to go once
it starts getting dark, should I let them out in the yard during the day.
If they don't come home to roost, I have a fishing net that I use to go
after the birds, collect them (which oftentimes requires chasing them),
and put them "manually" in their pen and lock them in for the night.
Oftentimes with a new batch of young chickens, I've had to do this for
a number of nights in a row before they catch on. Personally, I don't
let my chickens out to roam very much. Too many stray dogs, and even
though our yard is fenced, I worry, which is due to experience. Sometimes
I let chickens out for a couple of hours when I'll be home and right nearby.
However, I have a garden and chickens love to scratch in the garden, and
I've had a lot of plans dug up and killed over the years, due to just chickens
scratching, so my hens usually stay in their chicken tractor, and I move
the tractor around to fresh ground when I want to. Sort of a "safe"
free-ranging. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Now, there's another form of this
"not going home to roost" thing that happens. That is when you have
some young chickens--say, only 3 weeks old--and you have them outside already,
but they have a house part to their coop or chicken tractor, and you are
able to have them outside at such a young age because you have a heat
lamp installed in the house part of your coop. So, the idea is
that the young chickens will go into the "run" part of the coop during
the day, and go towards the heat lamp and perch under it for the night,
so as to keep warm enough at night until they are fully-fledged.
Well, just like the first scenario, some young chicks seem to be too dense
to go just a few feet to put themselves under the lamp at night.
This has happened to me often, and again I've had to grab the chickens
after dark and put them manually into the "house" part. After doing
this for up to a week, they usally catch on, and you never have to do it
again.
10.
Q. "What does 'broody' mean?"
A. Going
"broody" just refers to the instinct a hen has to stop laying eggs
every day and to start sitting on the ones she's already laid, so that
in 21 days they will hatch into chicks (provided a rooster has been mating
with the hen). Some chickens "go broody" all the time. They
are often bantam breeds, such as Silkies, or mixed breeds. Most purebreds,
like Rhode Island Reds, were themselves not hatched by a mother hen.
They were hatched in an egg incubator in a hatchery somewhere. You
see, if you want a chicken that lays a lot of eggs for eating, you don't
want one that still has the instinct to stop laying eggs and sit on her
eggs all the time. You want one that has had all the broody instincts
bred out of her so she'll lay for you year-round. So farmers over
the years have raised up what are known as utility breeds; chickens that
don't go broody and that lay almost all year 'round.
11.
Q. "My chicks are growing fast. How can I tell which ones are
hens and which are roosters?"
A. If you
bought "sexed" chickens, then most likely all your chickens are females.
If you bought "straight run" chicks, then 50% will be males. Professional
chicken sexors are employed by hatcheries and sexing chickens is difficult.
When you see some of your chicks displaying "dominance behaviors" or other
fighting type behavior, that won't tell you anything. All my hens,
when they were chicks, would fight, spar, act dominant to the others.
The best way is to wait until it is no longer a chick and almost full grown.
You will start to see pointed sickle and saddle feathers on a male.
Sickle feathers are the two long tail feathers, and saddle feathers are
the feathers that grow on a rooster's back right on top of the rump.
They will come to a point versus being rounded. Wait until you hear
a crow before you get rid of a suspected rooster if you are a novice; that's
what I still do.
12.
Q. "If my Rhode Island Red hen won't brood, what will make her set?
Do they need a special laying feed to make them go broody?"
A. If a hen
doesn't have the instinct to sit on her eggs, there's nothing you can do.
She doesn't have the mothering instinct. Special foods won't help,
nor will keeping her confined with her eggs or bringing in a rooster.
You might be thinking of "layer pellets," which is simply food fed to hens
that have started to lay eggs and hence need extra calcium and other nutrients
to make strong shells. So leaving the eggs in the nest in hopes she'll
sit on them is kind of wasting good eating eggs.
13.
Q. "How often will a grown hen lay eggs? How many a day? What's
the physiological reason that a chicken lays an egg?"
A. I do get
a lot of emails asking me about the basic biology of chickens such as this.
A "production" breed, or chickens that have been bred over the decades
to really crank out the eggs might lay you an egg every 24-36 hours, and
keep that up almost year 'round. That would be a good production
breed. Secondly, hens don't need a rooster around at all to lay their
maximum number of eggs. In addition, here is a picture that shows
the internal sex organs of most birds, including chickens. You can
see that the external genitalia are the same in males and females.
This external part is called the cloacae. ("klo-AY-kuh.")
The cloacae is the common chamber into which the intestinal, urinary, and
generative canals discharge in birds, reptiles, amphibians, and many fishes.
That is to say, chickens poop, pee, lay eggs, and mate all via the same
hole.
14.
Q. "We'll probably get a couple of chickens now, and then maybe another
later. Is that okay?"
A. That's
the one thing that's hard to do with chickens: Introduce a new one
into a pen of other chickens. The new one gets picked on, often severely.
There are tricks you can do to get around actual bloodshed, however.
You can introduce even numbers of birds, like put five new chickens in
with five original chickens. Or you can toss up the ages and ratios:
Put in a dozen youngsters in with just three adults, for example, and the
adults will be overwhelmed. Another thing to do is to let the original
chickens chase the new ones around, but provide hiding places for the new
ones. Put a second feeder and a second waterer at the opposite end
of the chicken pen or coop, so the new chickens can always access food
and water. Also, I'll refer you to a good link: http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/BRKRaisingChicks.html.
Scroll down to the very last paragraph on that page for another
technique on introducing new birds to a flock.
15. Q. "Our
young chickens are about 8 weeks old and getting pretty big. They
live in a chicken tractor.
Every night I make sure to close the little door that is on the house part
to keep them in the house part of the chicken tractor at night. Every
morning I open the door and let them into the run part. Will they
go into the house part at night by themselves? Do they have to?"
A. In theory, a chicken
tractor has the best of both worlds for a small number of chickens.
That is, it has a “hen house” part that is fully enclosed, and a “chicken
run” part that is mainly chicken wire, and gives the birds access to the
ground. In my experience, chickens tend to put themselves to bed
in the house part. Sometimes you have to prompt young chickens to
go to bed in the house part the first few nights they are in their new
tractor. I do this by physically putting the chickens into the house
part when the sun goes down. Then after spending the night in there,
they tend to want to go back in there again the next evening when it starts
getting dark. You might have to put them in there a couple of nights
in a row to “train” them. Now, do you then have to close a little
door of some kind to lock the chickens into the house part, and then let
them out yourself in the morning? With a well-built (not overly flimsy
or lightweight) chicken
tractor, the answer is no. When the sun comes up, they will be
able to come out of the house part and down into the run part themselves.
When they are of laying age (roughly 6 months old) they will go into the
house part where the nest box is to lay their eggs. When I first
had chickens, I was a tad paranoid, and I would indeed block the chickens
into their house part at night. But I have since learned it’s not
really necessary with a chicken
tractor. A raccoon cannot reach its prying paws into the house
part at night, and a dog should not be able to get into the run part at
night, if the chicken tractor is of sufficient strength. I might
also add that my current six hens refuse to go into their house part at
night. Even though there is a perch inside the house part.
They instead fly up to a high perch that is out in the run part and sleep
there, even though that is more out in the weather. I tried to make
them go to the house part at night by removing that perch. They still
wouldn’t go in. I might make some wind breaks on the outside of the
run part so that at least the wind won’t whip them when they are out on
the perch they insist spending the night on.
16.
Q. "I am new at keeping chickens. I got them when they where born.
Well, 2 of them have tried to attack me. I let them roam free and today
one of them chased me into the house. I am afraid to go into my backyard.
Have you ever heard of this?"
A. You really
should keep your chickens in a pen of some kind. I would never let
my chickens scare me out of my own yard. Take back the streets!
I mean yard. Get those darned chickens in a pen where they belong.
It will also keep them safer. If you let your chickens roam free
all the time, it is my personal opinion and experience that it's just a
matter of time before they are harmed by predators.
17.
Q. "What about parasites on or in my chickens? Do I have to
deal with all that?"
A. Every long-time
chicken owner does it a little differently, so I can only tell you how
I've done it: I check my chickens once in awhile--probably what amounts
to once every month or so--for lice and mites. You pick up the chicken
and part the feathers near the top of the head. If they have lice,
you will see flesh-colored flat bugs on their skin. If they have
lice, go to the hardware store or Lowe's or Home Depot and get some all-purpose
pesticide dust, such as Sevin dust, or Hi-Yield Livestock & Garden
dust. It will come in a canister or bag. It is usually in the
pest or garden department. On the package, it will usually say it
can be used on animals and plants; real all-purpose stuff. Here's
how I apply it to my chickens: Sit down, hold the chicken's two legs
in one hand, flip the bird over onto its back on your lap. With the
other hand, dispense some of the dusting powder onto the bird, working
it down to their skin, hitting all the body parts. When you let them
go, they will shake off but enough will be left on them. Go and wash
your hands right away. With that said, most of the time, I see no
evidence of lice on my chickens. So you might not even need to dust
them. If you want a hands-free way, you can try this way: Get
a big shallow drawer, wooden box or bin, put sand or clean dirt in it,
and mix a couple of cups of the pesticide dust in with it. Chickens
love to take dust baths and will be dusting themselves in no time.
Just leave the dusting bin in their run until you've seen them all take
a dust bath in it. Also, chickens sometimes get worms. Just
like puppies and kittens. I used to say I liked to dispense worm
medicine to my flock every six months, but I have changed to not worming
them at all unless I am seeing them acting like they have worms (droopiness,
emaciation and diarrhea). To worm: Buy a small bottle of chicken
wormer from your local feed store, or you can order from the 'net, too.
It simply involves adding some liquid medicine to their drinking water.
Carefully follow the directions on the bottle. Also, if you have
a sick chicken, you can try to diagnose what it might be yourself, by visiting
this handy page: http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/dissymp.htm.
Also, here's a slightly gross but cool
page featuring actual photos of individual chicken droppings to help
you diagnose if your chickens ae sick or healthy.
18.
Q. "What is coccidiosis?"
A. Coccidiosis
(pronounced, “cock-sid-ee-O-sis”) is a common chicken disease. Poultry
raised in crowded or unsanitary conditions (conditions that permit the
build-up of a lot of oocysts in the environment) are at greatest risk of
becoming infected. Wet areas around water fountains are a source of infection.
Oocysts remain viable in litter for many months. In this way they can contaminate
a farm from year to year. Oocysts are killed by freezing, extreme dryness
and high temperatures. Several factors influence the severity of infection.
Some of these are: An increase in the number of oocysts eaten causes an
increase in the severity of the disease. Old birds are generally immune
as a result of prior infection. Coccidiosis generally occurs more frequently
during warmer weather (May to September). The most easily recognized clinical
sign of severe coccidiosis is the presence of bloody droppings. Chickens
droop, stop feeding, huddle together and by the fourth day blood begins
to appear in the droppings. The greatest amount of blood appears by day
five or six and by the eighth or ninth day the bird is either dead or on
the way to recovery. Keep chicks, feed and water away from droppings as
much as possible. Place water vessels on wire frames to eliminate a concentration
of wet droppings, in which the chicks can walk to pick up or spread the
disease. Keep litter dry and stirred frequently. Remove wet spots and replace
with dry litter. Avoid overcrowding. If coccidiosis does break out, start
treatment immediately. Amprolium (the stuff they put in medicated chick
feed) or one of the sulpha-based drugs (such as Sulmet, which you can get
at the feed store) is usually recommended. Follow directions on bottle
to the letter.
19. Q. "My chicken
appears deathly ill with some mysterious condition. I don't want
to take it to the vet. What should I do?"
A. If you own a dog, you tend to
take it to the vet if it is ill. But chickens bridge that gap between
pet and livestock. You don't have to take a chicken to the vet if
you don't want to, and I feel you shouldn't feel guilty about that. . .
. . . . . However, I myself prefer to put terminally suffering chickens
out of their misery rather than let them suffer until they die. How
do you know if your chicken is surely on the way out of this world and
you just want to help it along? I can only tell you about the three
times I myself have chosen to euthanize a chicken. It's happened
just 4 times in the past 14 years, so don't fear you're going to have to
euthanize chickens often. . . . . . . One time a raccoon chewed one of
my young chicken's wings off. Rather than let it slowly bleed to
death or who knows, I chose to chop its head off because that was the only
killing means available to me. The second time a very young chicken
had a virus that was making it flop around uncontrollably. It probably
would have died soon, but I helped it along by chopping its head off.
The third time a hen had a terrible and grossly distended crop for weeks.
I called all around to vets and feed stores to find medication for this
condition but didn't find any. I decided to take her out of the flock
and--you guessed it--chop her head off. The fourth time a hen had
a severely "prolapsed vent" which was just getting worse and worse, and
so I chopped her head off. My hands shake a little afterwards,
but the stress is worth it to me to know that the chicken wouldn't suffer
for a few more weeks and die slowly and painfully.
Here’s how I do it:
Get a board, like a fence board or a scrap
of 2x6. Hammer three nails (or use screws, as I do) in the board
as shown in the picture. Use a length of wire to tightly lash the
sickly chicken’s legs together at the ankles. Put an old mismatched
sock over just the head. This makes them calm down and just lay there.
And you don't have to look at its cute little face. In fact, I used
a perfectly healthy young Australorp to be the model for this macabre photography
session. (I'm sorry that beheading is the only way I know how to
kill a chicken; there are other ways but this is my method.) Chickens
become very calm with something covering their eyes. Now lay the
chicken on the board (which should be on firm ground; not like soft grass).
Put its neck between the nails and slowly stretch the chicken so it's head
stays stuck in the nails and its body is laid out. Bend the nails
further open or closer together to get a good fit for the head to stay
in there. Lash the loose end of the wire down to the far single nail
with no slack in the wire. Now with a slightly stretched out chicken,
you have exposed more neck area. You've felt a chicken's neck before;
they are very thin.
The feathers make it seem big. Trim away some bulky neck feathers
if you want. I suggest a small hatchet and not a big axe. You
don't need a big axe swing. A mild hatchet swing will decapitate
a chicken. This set-up as seen above has the benefit of you not having
to touch the chicken at all while chopping (just one more way to remove
yourself from the scary-ness), and it can’t run away after it’s chopped.
Now give the neck area a whack, or have someone who isn’t scared do it.
You might have to whack again if you didn't sever the head off completely.
The chicken won’t go anywhere because it's lashed down, and when the body
is still, put the body and head (no need to take the head out of the sock)
in a couple of plastic grocery bags, tie them closed and throw it in the
trash can. I don’t bury my chickens. Yes, you can
throw away a chicken carcass; you probably have done it already lots of
times when you were done with a roasted chicken dinner or Thanksgiving
turkey.
There are other ways to euthanize or kill
a chicken. For example, you can buy online something called a chicken
“dispatcher.”
It
mounts to a sturdy garage or barn wall. Insert then neck of the chicken
into the U-shaped gap and pull the lever down quickly and sharply. This
will break the neck of the bird, sever the spinal cord, yet keep the chicken
from bleeding externally, because it doesn’t remove the head. An
adjusting screw is provided to regulate the gap from one size or type of
bird to another. I’ve never tried one of these.
20.
Q. "Do your chicken eggs have little red spots in them?"
A. The
blood spot that many people mistakenly take as a mark of a fertilized egg
is actually blood from the hen. Not all eggs will have them.
It happens when the hen is creating the egg in her body and a tiny blood
vessel somewhere along the process ruptures and a tiny bit of chicken blood
gets mixed into the formation process. People have long thought all
sorts of erroneous things about chicken eggs: That fertilized ones
are healthier, that free-range eggs are so much better for you, that organic
ones have less cholesterol, that the blood spot is a mark of fertilization,
etc.
21. Q. "When
you say you can raise chickens in the city, you really mean in the suburbs,
right? One can't raise chickens in a high rise apartment."
A.
I raised a hen from a baby chick when I lived in an apartment once.
It was actually "military family housing" when my husband was in the Air
Force. They were brand new town houses, right in the heart of "Silicon
Valley" in California. Right where all the dot com companies were
taking off. I had a temp job I could walk to at the NASA-Ames Research
Center! My chicken was a bantam breed and so only grew as large as
a parrot, which people keep as pets all the time, and chickens can live
outside. Except unlike a parrot, my species of bird would eat my
kitchen scraps and give me eggs. The only thing I would do differently
is raise two chicks at a minimum, as one chick gets lonely. My apartment
had a little patio, and I don't see why a person couldn't modify a chicken
tractor design to work for a patio. I personally think it's not too
nice to keep a dog cooped up in an apartment, and people do that all the
time. It might be challenging at first, but why couldn't city folks
keep pets that are super practical and give them fresh eggs? There
are cages called "patio homes" for small pets. See examples
of them here or here.
22.
Q. "I prefer organic versus store-bought eggs and I have read all
kind of hen house horror stories, so I would prefer to buy my family's
eggs from chickens which don't spend their lives caged up in misery and
pumped full of antibiotics and hormones."
A. It may
not be supporting my own cause, but I am compelled to say: The only
real difference you will be getting with backyard eggs is that they will
be fresher, and a lot of people like that. They can have more brightly
colored yolks. Otherwise they are essentially the same internally
as store-bought eggs. I don't really like the idea of battery hens
standing on wire the whole year or so they use them, but it might be a
necessary evil; there are poor people who need cheap eggs out there. (Yes,
we could force children to become vegans but that morality is still a luxury
for many, for economic reasons.) However, even backyard hens have
to live in a pen of some kind, because even city folks have raccoons, dogs
and hawks to contend with.
If I let my chickens roam the yard at all times, they would be predated
eventually. But you're right; backyard hens definitely are not on
wire floors and are able to scratch about happily in the straw or dirt,
eat grass and food scraps, fly up to perches, lay in the sun, take dust
baths, preen each other, interact with each other, etc. I know egg
industry hens are sometimes fed feed with antibiotics in it, but it's a
myth that they are given hormones. (Read this
good page on poultry feed.) It does please me, however,
to have my own happy egg producers, vs. supporting the less humane egg
industry, even though I don't actively protest it.
23. Q. "There are so many pesticides and chemicals used in food production it can be scary. Food production currently in the US is not exactly the healthiest thing for people, the economy, or the environment. I think there are a lot of people out there like myself who prefer organic so we can to try to reduce the amount of pesticides and chemicals we are ingesting and to hopefully contribute a little less damage to the ecosystem."
A. Your points are valid.
24.
Q. "Isn't it true that some free-range, organic, vegetarian hens
lay eggs with 35% less cholesterol than regular eggs?"
A. It might
indeed be true that the new "Omega 3" eggs developed at the University
of Nevada can have up to 19% less cholesterol than regular eggs.
However, it's the folks who are producing them who are reporting this;
not an independent researcher. Foodwatch.com says Omega 3 eggs "do not
have any less cholesterol but they have more omega 3 fatty acids."
Foodwatch.com also says, "Despite these differences, all eggs have approximately
the same amount of protein, total fat and cholesterol." These engineered
eggs don't claim to be "organic" eggs. They are not free-range eggs.
They just claim to have more Omega 3 fatty acids. What jumps out
at me is that they are doing a lot of work (genetic selection, restricted
feed, etc.) to make a relatively little change in eggs. The hens
are still in cages and the hens are fed a fairly unnatural diet.
So to me the eggs might be slightly healthier but are not particularly
"natural." I would say it would be up to each individual consumer
to decide which is their own personal lesser of two evils. Some folks
who have high cholesterol might be grateful for any small change in an
egg; others will still consider these to be battery hens that are caged
and the resulting eggs are not free-range nor organically produced.
Also, you might find some farms that make fairly amazing claims about their
eggs. Buyer beware of such claims.
25. Q. "No
matter what I put my chicken's water in, they get dirt in it! Do
you have any tricks for keeping their water supply unfouled?"
A. They sell automatic watering
systems, like the one seen here.
But they require you to have them always hooked up to a water source, and
most back yard poultry keepers don't get that complicated. I've used
the plastic one gallon gravity
feed ones (you have to refill them often), the 5 gallon plastic Dura
Founts (two of them leaked/cracked on me), a plain plastic shoebox
but placed very high on some boards and bricks, and other made-up methods.
The problem I have with the galvanized
gravity feed ones is that although they can hold a lot of water, the actual
reservoir holds only about a cup of water, and it gets dirty fast.
So the chickens, although using a five gallon waterer, only have access
to the trough of a cup or so of dirty warm water. That bothers me
every time I look at it. Currently I'm using a five gallon bucket,
as seen in the picture. You must keep the water topped off or the
chickens won't be able to reach the water easily. With gravity feed
waterers, you have to go into the poopy chicken pen to remove it, open
it, refill it, and then lug 5 gallons of water back into the chicken pen.
The bucket can be filled from outside the pen by sticking the garden hose
through the wire; no top to unscrew. The bucket water level is right
near the head-level of a standard breed bird. The water surface is
high enough to keep most scratched-up dirt out of it. The dirt that
does land in the water settles down to the bottom of the bucket.
It is heavy so if the birds fly onto it, it won't tip over like a smaller
bucket. It is inside a locked chicken tractor so that no
children can fall into it. I will undoubtedly change around my
watering set-up; I often do.
26.
Q. "I gave my chickens a few worms. They loved those.
Is it OK to do so?"
A. You will
find that chickens are better than pigs for eating anything. Get
a pretty ceramic bowl or container (I use a kid's sand pail), set it next
to your kitchen sink, and throw all your food scraps into it. This
will become your "chicken bucket." Then feed these scraps to the
chickens. Empty the container daily so as not to breed germs.
Dump the "chicken bucket" of food scraps into an old metal cake pan or
the like that you leave in the chicken run. This way the scraps are
kept off the ground and droppings. You can then easily dispose of
any food that the chickens didn't eat that was left in the cake pan.
You will find that chickens hardly refuse anything. It gives them
food variety, too, and you will feel like you are not wasting food but
recycling it. Think you can't put scrambled eggs or cooked chicken
meat into the chicken bucket? Think again; those are among their
favorites. I used to put even raw meat scraps in, but I've read that
raw meat can transmit toxoplasmosis to animals, including chickens, and
I wouldn't want myself or my kids to then come in contact with contaminated
chicken manure. This is especially important for pregnant women.
Some chicken fanciers are wholly against feeding human food to chickens.
I just don't understand how some leftover Cheerios, which are enriched
with vitamins, or bread or pasta made with enriched flour could possibly
be bad for chickens. One time a mouse made a nest under one of my
chickens' nest boxes, and when we moved the box, about 7 baby mice went
scampering. My hens ate those baby mice so fast you wouldn't believe
it. Chickens are the ultimate omnivores. Oh, and chickens love
fresh grass clippings; be sure to put your garden clippings into the chicken
pen. (Earthworms and other bugs, actually, can be carriers of microscopic
parasitic chicken worms. My personal solution is to administer worming
medicine via their water roughly every year versus never letting them eat
worms or bugs.)
27.
Q. "What kind of chicken food do I buy for my laying hens?"
A. Very simple:
One should always provide free-choice commercial chicken food. Chicks
should be fed "chick starter" clear up until you get your first egg, then
switch to "layer pellets." That's it. Cracked corn or scratch
grains are not sufficient. A chicken fed on only "chicken scratch"
will be malnourished and fat.
28.
Q. "I was watching my chickens and they are pecking the feathers
off of each other a lot. Could feeding them straight barley for a
long time make them pick?"
A. Absolutely.
Chickens have been bred from the wild jungle fowl. In the wild, chickens
eat beetles, worms, mice, carrion, bugs, flies, seeds, grasses, etc.
They are omnivores, which means they eat meat and vegetable matter.
They are omnivores in much the same way we humans are omnivores.
So feeding them plain barley for a long time would be just as if you ate
plain barley for a long time. You would start having strong cravings
for protein, vitamins and minerals. You would become malnourished.
Your chickens are picking each other and eating the feathers for protein
and other trace minerals. "Scratch grains," such as barley kernels
and cracked corn, are just extra treats for chickens.
"Scratch grains," as they are called, should never be their only food.
You should always provide commercially prepared chicken food for your captive
chickens. It should be "free choice," too, which means a supply should
always be available and should never run out. So go out today and
buy an all-purpose chicken feed like Triple Duty or Chicken Mash or Crumbles.
If your chickens are all older and are egg layers, you can feed Layer Pellets,
as it is nutritionally complete for laying hens. Don't feed this
to chicks or chickens who haven't started laying yet. They need Chick
Starter until you see your first egg. A 25lb. bag of chicken feed
(not scratch) costs about $5.95. Also, put grass clippings in your
pen as often as you can, as this helps cut down on pecking because it gives
them something to do and is healthy for them, because regular chicken feed,
although nutritionally complete, has no green leafy living matter in it,
and that is good for chickens and they really like it. Also
provide grit (small gravel rocks you buy at the feed store) for your chickens
if they are not able to find little pebbles on the ground.
29.
Q. "If you read the fine print on a bag of commercial chicken feed,
you'll see that some chicken feed uses by-products from butchering animals."
A. I don't have a problem with that.
I would have a problem if we raised cows and pigs and just took out all
their fancy parts (filet mignon, etc.) and completely wasted all the rest
of the parts. In the old days, and even today, even humans eat:
Haggis, head cheese, kidney pie, blood pudding, tongue, tripe, etc.
Only today can we afford to waste certain body parts just because of our
current sensibilities. When my chickens ate the baby mice, or eat
beetles and worms, they are eating eyeballs, legs, hair, teeth, reproductive
organs, bone, etc. When I see a crow or vulture eating a dead animal
in the woods, I see them eating all the body parts. So suffice it
to say, I have no problem feeding "offal." I believe that some
people think offal is bad to feed chickens because of popular tastes (and
there's no arguing with taste) and the fact that morality is often a luxury;
we can afford to make our chickens vegetarians (with commercially prepared,
carefully balanced feed) if we want to play that game, even though chickens
are not naturally vegetarians.
30. Q. "Is there
any way to quiet my crowing rooster?"
A. The only trick I've heard of,
but have never tried myself, is to put your rooster into a low cage at
night. Apparently, roosters have to stand up tall and crane their
necks upward to crow. Supposedly, if you keep them in a cage which
keeps them from being able to stand all the way up then they can't crow.
Then you would be able to let the rooster out at a more reasonable hour
in the morning. Don't, of course, keep a rooster in a little cage
like that for longer than just for its overnight sleep. The rooster
would still undoubtedly crow during other times of the day. Catching
a rooster each night and letting it out each morning sounds too time-consuming
to me. Another thing I've heard of is that you can surgically de-crow
a rooster. Chickens don't make sound with vocal chords so it's not
a matter of just snipping the vocal chords as they do with dogs; it's more
involved surgery, it's expensive, and it's very hard to find a vet who
can/will do it.
31. Q. "What
kind of bedding do you put in a hen house or chicken run?"
A. I can only speak from my own
experiences, and I've tried a number of things: Sand, pea gravel, wood
shavings, straw, etc. The main thing is that you want something that
promotes drainage. If you have a muddy chicken run, it is more conducive
to disease. Some people throw straw in their chicken tractor or run,
and then when it gets layered with poop and moisture, they throw on another
layer of straw. This works, except for eventually, you have to remove
the dirty straw, and in my experience the layers become very matted and
almost woven/cemented together so that even with a shovel it is hard to
get up. So I would suggest using one of those compressed bales of
wood shavings for $9. A bale for three hens in a chicken tractor
lasts a long time and make things look "petting zoo" cute. It also
doesn't mat together quite as bad as straw, you can layer fresh wood shavings
on top of old, and it absorbs standing water or mud which can harbor an
excess of pathogens. If have very well-draining soil in your coop,
or live where it is dry and warm a lot, you can also use no litter; just
bare earth. Just rake out the dried poop occasionally.
32.
Q. "I do like the
chicken
tractor idea - but they'd also need a regular hen house and pen, right?"
A. In a word,
no. A chicken tractor, depending on how long you built it, could
house from 3 to 8 hens. Chicken
tractors are perfect for city folks' chickens. In the U.K., they
call chicken tractors 'arks'. When building a coop of any kind, a
lot of people assume they have to bury the chicken wire three feet into
the ground. I don't, because in all my years of chicken-keeping,
I have yet to see evidence of anything digging under. I think
that chicken tractors are safe, and are good accommodations for city chickens.
I wouldn't worry about something digging under. Unless you came out
one morning and saw that something had been scratching at one spot the
night before, which is unlikely. Even then I would just put some
boards or rocks around the perimeter. What is more likely is something
that happened to me; someone left the coop door unlatched and a dog got
in at night and did away with a hen.
33.
Q. “Tell your site readers that chicken wire will not keep their
chickens safe from dogs. We built a chicken tractor like the ones
pictured in your chicken tractor gallery and still our dogs tore through
the chicken wire and killed our two chickens.”
A. I’m so
sorry to hear that. I will mention again about the danger of dogs
around chickens. Determined dogs might indeed be able tear lightweight
chicken wire off of its framework if it was not attached very well.
I will advise builders to use plenty of long staples when attaching the
chicken wire to their chicken tractors or hen houses. I will also
suggest that if using a chicken tractor to house chickens, the extra-safe
way is to keep the pen inside a fully fenced yard. That way, no stray
or roaming dogs can come into your yard. If you have your own dogs
sharing your yard with your chickens, I must simply say that there is no
real way to fully trust dogs around chickens. If you have dogs, a
chicken tractor may not be appropriate for you. You would have to
use something very dog-proof to keep your dogs away from your chickens.
(See my segments on using a modified dog kennel as a chicken yard.)
Also, if a dog can’t tear through the chicken wire, it still might be able
to tip over a very lightweight chicken tractor. So if you are going
to leave your own dogs unattended around your chicken tractor, I would
suggest building a heavy chicken tractor or else put some kind of heavy
object such as an old tire on top of it.
"Dear Katy...Just
found your website and found it helpful and encouraging. I have been
wanting to raise chickens for some time but always found an excuse.
Your site covers a lot of the issues that stopped me because it's such
unknown subject for me right now. My experience is my memories of
my grandmother's many chickens and gathering eggs for her. Thanks
for the boost to my determination to raise some chickens!"
----Carol D., Bartlett, Illinois.
34. Q. "I've
been told by several people that bantam hens have a very good disposition
and are exceptionally easy to manage. In your experience are there
any breeds that do better than others as pets?"
A. I've tried a lot of breeds, and
ultimately, they are all chickens. In my experience, how "pet-like"
a chicken is is directly related to how much it was handled while it was
growing up. It will be unafraid of humans if humans handled it a
lot and hand-fed it, etc. Some chicken fanciers will tell you that
some breeds are born friendlier than others. My personal opinion?
It's dependent on how much human contact they had when growing up.
Some breeds will *look* more pet like, because they are fluffier, or slower,
or have shorter legs. Remember, they are birds. They are all
flighty, unless you work against their nature and hand-rear them a lot.
Get some baby chicks, brood them in your coat pockets, only hand feed them,
etc., and your chickens will hang around you forever. But I don't
have that kind of time, and I’d hate to think what my coat pockets would
smell like. :)
35.
Q. "Would my chickens be safe to wander around our fenced yard unsupervised
during the day, as long as I put them in their house at night?"
A. In a word,
no. Your key word is 'unsupervised.' There are too many things
that like to eat/kill chickens. I had chickens only 64 blocks from
downtown Portland and I had dogs, raccoons, and hawks all attack my chickens,
showing me the insufficient portions of my coop set-up. And why must
it always happen at 4am? So I really don’t advocate letting your
chickens out, unless you are standing right there, and are sure you’d be
able to catch your chickens to put them back in their pen. Running
around after your chickens is not that fun. Well, maybe a little.
Some chickens will come when called, with "calling" being shaking and tapping
of your food-scraps bucket. But many chickens don't want go back
into the pen and can be hard to catch.
36.
Q. "Would my chickens have the capability and the desire to fly out
of our yard?"
A. Yes.
The capability is there. I even keep particularly skittish hens’
wings trimmed so they can’t take off. No, chickens can’t really “fly,”
but they can get over fences. If you cut the wings like in the picture
here, it doesn't hurt them a bit. This will keep them from leaping
most fences.
37.
Q. "I was wondering if the smell is very bad if we are good about
keeping our chicken area really clean. It seems like it is not too
bad as long as the area is kept clean. Is that correct?"
A. Since your
chicken pen is outside, then even if it got quite poopy you wouldn't notice
the smell much. But you're right; cleaner always equals less smelly.
I think you have to let the poop accumulate for a LONG time before it gets
really smelly. Also, a fresh dropping smells. A dried out dropping
doesn't. Wet area equals smell, dry area equals no smell.
38.
Q. "Do you notice a rat problem starting up because of the chicken
feed that is out? If so, what do you usually do to curb that problem?"
A. I've noticed
a few mice, but they've never got to the "problem" level at all.
They come around looking for the kitchen scraps I feed my chickens.
But then one time my hens ate a bunch of baby mice they found under their
nest box. So there you go. :) I also keep my chicken
feed outside, but in a metal trash can. I tried plastic; the squirrels
chewed through it.
"Dear Katy...Interesting
webpage. Been wondering about what it would take to have some chickens
for awhile. Just hadn't taken the time to take a look - until now!
Thanks for the info." --- MD from Beaverton, Oregon
39. Q. "Should
I be concerned about the Bird Flu?"
A. Bird flu, known as the
H5N1 strain of avian influenza, does not currently pose a major threat
to humans and it is not easily transmitted from person to person. But scientists
warn that mutations could make it more hazardous in the future. Since 2003,
the virus has infected 383 people in 15 countries, including China, Indonesia
and Vietnam, according to the World Health Organization. You'll have
to judge for yourself if this is a lot of incidences or a few.
40. Q. "What
should be done for chickens in the Winter?
A. Chickens, in zero degree temps
and lower, can get frostbite of the comb and wattles. However, I
don’t want my chickens to get anywhere near the point of frostbite.
Because I can imagine there are many points before actual frostbite that
would be very uncomfortable for a chicken. Chickens may be able to
"survive," "handle," or "tolerate" the cold, but those adjectives don't
sound very pleasant. Chickens are descendants of Jungle Fowl, a tropical
pheasant that are from Fiji and other South Pacific islands. I.e.,
warm places. They evolved big combs and wattles because they could;
they didn't get frostbite in those climates. They might live, but
will suffer. Some might argue that today's buff Orpington, for example,
is a much hardier creature than the Jungle Fowl, but I believe that today’s
chicken is still genetically not made for zero degrees, let alone the negative
temps, without supplemental heat or excellent insulation. Orpingtons
have combs and wattles just like the Jungle fowl, and have the same genetic
sensitivities. Okay, so now you probably want to know an exact Fahrenheit
temperature at which you should put in supplimental lighting for heat in
your chicken pen, right? All I can tell you is what I do, and what
I've noticed. In the Portland, Oregon area where I live, it's been
down to 15 degrees for a few days in the winter. My hens always seemed
fine. I tend to worry more about them when it's 100 degrees in the
Summer. (Always provide some shade!) With that said, if the
temps get much below 15 degrees, then I might put a drop lamp in my coop.
Keep
lights away from bedding; you don't want a
fire.
41. Q. “About
2 weeks ago I started noticing evidence of broken eggs. I can't find any
shells--they eat those--but they leave the yolk/white. After much observation
I know which two of my girls are guilty but I don't have a clue what to
do about it. They are eating a good layer mix, fortified with all the vitamins/minerals
they need plus I give them oyster shells and grit. They have a tractor
that gets pushed around the yard and frequent 3-4 hour free-range times.
Their shells are very strong and the eggs look normal. Any tips or
suggestions would be so helpful!”
A. Hmm....Egg eaters will eat all
the yolk and white, too. Did you actually witness hens cracking intact
eggs and eating them? Actual cracking and eating of eggs is kind
of rare in my experience. You would have to actually *see* a hen
going after a perfect, intact egg in the nest, more than once, before you
could be sure you have an egg-eater. Now, if an egg is already cracked
and spilling, *any* chicken will eat it.
My question is this; how soft is your nest box? I have found that
if there is not enough bedding in the nest box, that eggs get accidentally
broken when each hen hops in and out to lay. Also, if the hens don't
have a separate place to roost, and have to sleep in the nest box (which
is fine), then sometimes they move and shift around when bedding down and
step on eggs that haven't been collected. Ideas to try: You
can make a separate roost in your chicken tractor, and you can put a piece
of rubber foam, like from an old camping mat, underneath the nesting material
in the next box(es), and add a thick layer of straw or wood shavings to
the nest box(es) over that to provide cushioning for eggs. Also try
putting some fake wooden eggs (found at any feed store or on-line, or you
can use plastic easter eggs with a rock inside) in the nest and leave them
there at all times. This way a hen migth peck at unbreakable eggs and eventually
get discouraged. Also try collecting eggs more frequently, such as
every morning and before you go in for the night. And one more thing
I might mention here; the idea that feeding empty egg shells back to your
chickens might promote egg-eating is not true in my experience. I've
always fed the egg shells back to my hens, and I've yet to have an egg-attacker.
Chickens seem to have certain egg instincts; like, if an egg is cracked,
they know to gobble it up immediately, to not waste the nutrition and to
clean up the nest area so as to not attract predators. But they prefer
to lay eggs in a nest that already has eggs in it, and don't seem to exhibit
any preference for their own eggs over another hen's eggs; it's rather
communal. Conversely, some wild birds will push the eggs out of other
bird's nests, but that doesn't appear to happen with chickens. For
example, one time I let my bantams out of their chicken pen, and my standard
sized hens out of their pen. One of the standard sized hens went
clear over to the bantam hutch, jumped in, found the next box, and proceeded
to lay her egg in the bantam nest, without disturbing the bantam eggs.
You just don’t see hens attacking other hen’s eggs normally. Let
me know how it goes!
42. Q. "Where DO urban chickens
go to retire? And what's life like there?"
A. I've yet to have a chicken, in
all my years keeping chickens, that has died of old age. I usually
give mine away to friends, or sell them because I've had to move, or raised
some up for a friend, or pared down my flock, etc. I've also had
a number that have died before their time, due to disease, injury, or a
predator. My understanding is that the egg-production industry raises
up new batches of hens every couple of years or so, because the Leghorn
breed they use have been bred to crank out the eggs in their first year
of laying, and then the frequency of laying kind of tapers off. A
slight taper is not an issue for backyard chicken keepers, but I gather
that to the egg production industry, it is more feed-cost-effective to
just start over. What they do with the two or three year old hens
when they are done with them I don't know. I would hope they euthanize
them humanely, and then perhaps use their meat for something useful.
My thought is that probably more chickens get euthanized, killed, butchered
for meat, predated, injured, or diseased than actually "retire" and die
of old age. I think that chickens are probably more like goldfish
than dogs. People have dogs that die of old age, but you know how
it goes with goldfish.
Sarah S. of St.
Louis, MO wrote in to say, “Dear Katy...I'm taking a food writing class
and my for my first assignment I have chosen to write about city dwellers
who raise chickens…can you answer a few questions?” Sure,
Sarah!
Q. What, in your opinion, is the leading motivator for urban chicken ‘farmers?’ Hobby/fun, organic eating, locally sourced food, economics, or? A. It seems that doing “green” things for the earth is kind of trendy right now. And keeping chickens is seen as one of those things. That could be one reason. Also, plenty of people just plain old like animals, and chickens are easy pets. E.g., I love dogs but don't have one because chickens are easier at this particular stage in my life. Q. What do you think are the leading
reasons that municipalities might be against residents raising chickens
in their city?
Q. As the economy worsens, do
you think more people will look to raising their own chickens to save some
cash?
Q. How strong is the connection
between raising chickens in the city to other practices like gardening
and composting?
Q. Have you learned of an increased
demand for organic eggs?
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